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Title: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: turtletoes on July 27, 2008, 02:00:45 AM
Hi all. :)

I'm about to set up a tank like I Never dreamed of!! :)

A 75g predator tank. The main reason for this is to keep a "cullinator". A large fish, or multiple fish whole can eat fry/smaller fish who are not suitable for sale or trade due to deformities.

I've thought long and hard on this. And, I'd rather have a large fish to feed the culls to than place the culls in a freezer.(not that I've had to cull anything yet. been very lucky in that respect.)

A few fish I have considered, but do not know if they would be suited for a 75g are:
Pumkin Sunfish
Frontosa
Large Tinfoil Barb(s)
Large shark-type catfish??
?????

Or, maybe a few sinlge large not so aggressive, but big-mouthed fish that could live in harmony together, but could swallow up to a 1 inch fish whole.

Or, a breeding group of larger cichlids who would revel in the oportunity for some occasional live foods??(I've kept very few cichlids in my life. And, actually, I dont think I'd call the way I cared for them as "keeping them" by my current standards. I've learned Volumes of info since the last time I had any cichlid in any of my tanks--well, besides the satanoperca leucosticta)

Since I have never kept these types of fish, I am looking for all the info I can find. Any personal experiences would be greatly appreciated. Or, even daydreaming thoughts of what you'd put in a 75g if you could keep any predatory/opportunistic eating fish you wanted. :)

I am bound to use this 75g tank. It will be in the center of my small fish room and viewed from the front and back of the tank. If I need to make rockwork that will take up a large volume of tank water, I can always put a 30g tank below for a sump/freshwater refugium type set up and allow for a little more water volume.

Any ideas?? :) I've seen some amazing and gorgeous fish in my search. Now, its time to get some input from some pros. :)

Lastly, someone today suggested Turtles........any ideas on that one? I think turtles are Cool, and I'd have a Blast setting up a little environment for them. :)

Thanks
~Lori


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: VĭиŏиMăĭ₣ on July 27, 2008, 02:29:22 AM
Hey Lori I think that is a fantastic and practical idea. I like your thinking.

I have no idea what a sunfish is.
I don't know what your 75 dimensions are.
I have an 80g and I wouldn't house any other fish on your list in the tank.
Now I may just be being conservative. But I don't consider my 80g as a tank that really has that much space in it...

Some of the 5-6" catfish would definitely be a goer IMO. The ones with spots on....ummm don't know their name lmao
Mystus spp. maybe?


Oh and there is an article in the library about turtles. They definitely need a lot more than a little environment :)


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: tom14 on July 27, 2008, 06:51:32 AM
what about an oscar or jack depsey or some other larger solitary/pairing cichlid, in fact any cichlid would eat fry most likely if given the chance. frotosa, as far as im aware, like to live in groups and grow rather large and need very large tanks. the others i have no idea.


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: gomezaddams on July 27, 2008, 08:45:00 AM
Oscars are very personable and will beg like a puppy and in general be more interested in you than anything in thier tank.But they are unpredictable and sometimes choose to keep one or more of the feeders as pets!
Depending on the size of the feeders some of the dwarf to medium size pike cichlids would happily eat your culls.
I have crenicichla proteus and they are pretty cool fish.
I have a coworker with a pet alligator that I send my larger culls to!

Frontosa are a poor choice,in the wild thier feeding method is to wait for thier prey to go to sleep then pick them off.They are not good hunters.


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: livebearerfanatic on July 27, 2008, 10:22:15 AM
pumpkinseed sunfish  (as we call them in michigan)  are fish that you catch in lakes and EAT!  they're temperate water  fish.


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: Kim on July 27, 2008, 10:28:05 AM
How big of culls are we talking about here?

I have always wanted to keep a Ctenopoma in the conditions it's meant to be kept in. :) My brain hasn't fully kicked in yet or I'd give you a full name, it's the one commonly referred to as "leopard". But I think they only get to about 6".

They're stalkers and most definately eaters of small fishes from what I've read. They like to hide deep in plants and then jump out and grab them.

anyway, obviously they would only work for small culls, if you're gonna put a two incher in there it probably wouldn't work. :)  But I think a couple or few in a moderately planted tank would be cool.


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: metanis on July 27, 2008, 10:34:41 AM
i definitely agree with the leopard ctenopoma...i have one in my tank.  she is a juvenile right now, but when she gets bigger she will be my excuse for upping tank size:)  she is an amazing fish to watch as she has very unique tendencies.  she loves following around this feeder guppy i have had for a couple years that has survived somehow.  even tho she can't eat the guppy, she stalks her around the tank waiting until she is big enough.  also, datnoids are gorgeous fish, although i think they might get too big for a 75gal.  good luck, and i would definitely recommend a few leopard ctenopomas or striped ctenopomas


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: Kim on July 27, 2008, 10:50:06 AM
ooh, metanis,  what a great way to keep that swordtail population down!
Now I want one even more, lol.


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: RTR...Grumpy Ole Fogie on July 27, 2008, 11:06:41 AM
A male front would be my personal choice, but a 75 is just not big enough for an adult.  how about a 120? 

For the 75 I would not go past an Oscar.  They are common, but highly personable and are real pets.  Gender does not matter.


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: Kim on July 27, 2008, 12:06:21 PM
Ctenopoma acutirostre.  :)

They really are interesting fish. Apparently they have huge mouths and will eventually eat everything  smaller then themselves.
Not terribly fond of each other but can live with peaceful fish their own size.


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: turtletoes on July 27, 2008, 01:54:04 PM
Is this the fish we are talking about?? :)

http://www.aquahobby.com/gallery/e_Ctenopoma_acutirostre.php

I stumbled across this beauty a week or so ago. I would love to have a pair of them in a 75g tank if thats do-able. :)

The tank is an older 75g. Its 48 inches x18 inches, I think 18 inches deep. The glass is thicker than they use now, so there is no crossbar. I am limited to this tank, as it is kind of an indulgence since my fish room is quite small(13ftx10fft). Hubby would rather see this tank as a grow out, but I'd rather have something in it that can eat the culls when needed, and be ok on frozens when I dont have any culls.

The culls would be from guppies, raibowfish, endlers, or a variety of smaller fish that I am breeding....so, it doesnt have to be a Huge fish. By the time the fish are an inch, it should be obvious as to whether or not they are keepers.

I'm not sure that any fish would be suitable for bn pleco culls, but I dont forsee that being something I need to do often. I've only seen one bent spine out of several hundred bn babes, and he disappeared a day or 2 after I noticed him.

I'd also consider keeping a pair/group of some sort of cichlid in there. But, not having really kept any cichlids before, I dont know where to start on that search. The only reason I asked about Frontosa is because I saw 1st place winner large male specimen at a buddy's house and was just blown away!! This fish was housed in a 120g(similar dimensions to my 75, just 6 inches deeper and 6 inches wider front to back......) The guy thought the fish Might be ok in a 75g, but after I researched them some, I didnt think it was a good idea because they really need a bigger tank, and like someone said, the way they hunt their prey probably isnt the best for getting those fast little culls)

I've also considered an oscar. But, have never kept them and wasnt sure if they were suited for a 75g tank. I'm willing to go that route, but only if I am unable to find something more different. :)

thanks for all the suggestions!! Keep em comin!! :) Or if anyone has any pics of their leopard ctenopoma or the tank they keep them in, that would be awesome! :) I've seen a variety of "leaf fish" at different LFS, but they never have a proper ID on them. I cant say for certain that I've ever seen these fish in person before. I'm guessing a private breeder is the way to go about getting one or a pair....??

thanks!! I'm Really excited now!! :)
~Lori

 


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: Kim on July 27, 2008, 03:29:40 PM
I would also love to have a pair in a 75. :)

A while back Petsmart was carrying them, this was a couple years ago. I doubt you'll see much in the way of private breeders but you might see them on Aquabid from some of the private importers.  Either that or see if an lfs will get them in for you.

whaddya know....http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?fwanabantoid&1217455200


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: JOKER on July 27, 2008, 03:49:03 PM
oscars really very.  mine is big, fat and lazy and isnt territorial so I can put pretty much anything in with him.  I have some feeder fish in their and they arent getting eaten because he doesnt want to eat them.  and nothing else in the tank eats until he is done eating.

so oscars can go both ways, sometimes you can keep things with them and sometimes you cant. 
my tank is a bit overstocked in general but since the oscar isnt territorial,  I can do more.
I have kept oscars for a long time and if you want to go that way, and you want other fish in their, be sure to add them when the oscar is young. 


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: turtletoes on July 27, 2008, 05:01:10 PM
Kim, now that you mention it, I have seen what looks like these fish at my local petsmart. But, its been a year or more since they had them in......sometimes they get pretty cool fish. i also remember them being very expensive($30+??) Thanks for the link to the auction on them. :) They look so cute as little ones........I wonder how many I should start with?? To get a pair of them, is it best to start with like 6 or more and let them grow and then pair off?? Or if I find a male and a female(how do you sex them??) can I just put a pair in the tank from the start??

Thanks again guys :)
~Lori


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: Kim on July 27, 2008, 05:06:10 PM
I don't know how to sex them, I've only researched them a bit because they're a fish that's always interested me, one of the hits I got on google though said just that, to get a group of youngsters. I don't think they pair bond like cichlids , you probably just get a group and grow em out until you can sex them.

here's a nice little write up

http://www.aquarticles.com/articles/breeding/Marshall_Leopard_Bushfish.html

and another good one

http://articles.gpasi.org/ctenopoma_acutirostre.html

good profile..ooh, congo tetra's would be good tank mates it says. Wouldn't those be pretty?  :)

http://www.seriouslyfish.com/profile.php?genus=Ctenopoma&species=acutirostre


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: metanis on July 27, 2008, 05:38:14 PM
ill try to get a couple pictures of my ctenopoma up tonight when i get home.  i'm not sure how to sex them either, but they are great fish...i absolutely love watching her.  i've seen some at petsmart for around $10 or $11...but that is starting at about an inch and a half or so.  if you buy an older one...closer to 3 inches, you will probably pay close to 30. good luck!!!


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: Mr T Rides BMX on July 27, 2008, 06:07:55 PM
Gulpers  :)


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: metanis on July 28, 2008, 08:13:19 AM
how do you upload pictures onto a reply?  im a total computer dummy


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: metanis on July 28, 2008, 08:37:53 AM
here is a pic of our ctena hanging by her castle



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Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: VĭиŏиMăĭ₣ on July 28, 2008, 08:52:46 AM
A very stunning fish. It even looks like you don't want to mess with it :)


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: Kim on July 28, 2008, 09:50:23 AM
nice pic metanis!


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: turtletoes on July 28, 2008, 11:13:32 AM
Thanks for the pic!! :) Where did you get your fish?? I'm gonna have to go out scouring the all LFS in a 50 mile radius this week!! :) I'm Very excited!! :)

~Lori


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: Zach on July 28, 2008, 03:08:26 PM
I would reccomend some kind of bicher.
they are fun, big (but not huge), and will eat anything the size of their head.  :happy:
but I also agree with the climbing perch suggestion.


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: metanis on July 28, 2008, 03:15:18 PM
i got her from a local store called preuss pets in lansing, mi.  they also sell them here in east lansing at petsmart, but that might just be a local deal, i'm not sure.  good luck finding one!!!


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: turtletoes on July 28, 2008, 03:23:55 PM
Thanks..........

What are suitable tankmates for the "leopard bushfish"(too lazy to look at how to spell the scientific name again! :P )?? Could I have a bichir too?? :) I dont think so, I'll go look them up..........I had forgotten I wanted a bichir tank!! lol. In the long run, I dont think that 75g is big enough for a big bichir or bichir(s) though.........that would be too cool if it were ok.

See?? THATS why I posted this thread!! So I could be reminded off all the Cool Big fish eating fish I havent ever kept before!! :)

thanks again! :)
~Lori


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: JOKER on July 28, 2008, 03:30:27 PM
you can keep a bichir in a 75. i have always wanted one and am considering getting one.


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: Zach on July 28, 2008, 04:49:16 PM
You could keep both of them in a 75 gallon, Bichers and climbing perch are not territorial and are pretty laid back. In fact you might have room for 1 more critter too if you do it that way.

just make sure its not an ornate bicher they get really big, but they are very expensive anyway. also make sure to use sand, I have heard of bichers choking on pebbles.


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: JOKER on July 28, 2008, 04:53:57 PM
needle nose gar are really cool
i have one and it is really fun to watch
they cost like 10 dollars at petsmart.


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: turtletoes on July 28, 2008, 05:01:29 PM
Oh, Boy!! :) I'ma bout to start gettin in trouble..........I could totally find a 105g tank(same foot print, but taller I think) and possibly fit even more fish in there!! lol.  ;)

Just kidding..........

Any other suggestions?? :)



Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: JOKER on July 28, 2008, 05:11:19 PM
fire eel, rope fish, african brown knife, crocodile fish, one of those spotted catfish things, any of those spiny eels, ummm lets see thats all i can think of right now =/


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: turtletoes on July 28, 2008, 09:19:04 PM
Wow, now ya really got me thinkin. lol.......I'll have an empty 60g underneath it.......hmmm. was gonna use it for grow out but........  :party:


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: livebearerfanatic on July 28, 2008, 09:25:56 PM
use the empty 60g for a piranha tank   :)


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: rasaqua on July 28, 2008, 11:08:58 PM
Livebearer, that is the second time I noticed you recommended those fish. The 75 gal tank was not suitable for them, why do you think a 60 gal would be?

Lori,

Joker gave me a terrific idea for a fish. African Featherfin Knife fish. they get about 12-13 inches and would be suitable (with reasonable amount of cover) for your tank. They would easily take care of your 1/2-1 inch culls :happy:

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Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: metanis on July 29, 2008, 12:15:18 AM
the leopard bushfish, leaf-fish, ctenopoma, etc...is peaceful with fish that it cannot fit into its mouth.  they can be aggressive toward one another, but from what i have experienced, only territorial...nothing too extreme.  my cteno will stalk the small fish, but she can't fit them in her mouth yet so she can stay in the community tank.  once she gets bigger, she will go into a larger tank with fish of similar size.  i really can't say enough about this fish :kewl:


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: turtletoes on July 29, 2008, 01:01:19 AM
Hmm!! A fish I didnt even know I ever wanted!! lol. The African Featherfin knife fish.......I wonder if one of my larger tanks is going to end up with a bunch of predatory fish rather than bows in it?!?!? What can I fit in a 120 or 125?? Just Kidding!! lol.


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: Mr T Rides BMX on July 29, 2008, 03:05:03 AM
Bullrout are pretty cool,  Not sure if you can get them very easily over there, but there stocked like guppies over here(australia).


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: turtletoes on July 29, 2008, 04:54:10 AM
Think a bullrout would go well with my rainbows??? lol. I've got so much Australian and New Guinea native stuff that I'm really looking for something different. Some day, I'd like to have an Aussie or New Guinea native brackish tank.......I'll have a small one set up here in a week for some cyanodorsalis blue eyes I have coming in, but those guys wouldnt even be a dinner, more like a snack for the bullrout!! :) So, I guess I'll have to have TWO Aussie/New Guinea native sw/bw tanks!!  :nerd:

This has been fun. Its reminded me of a lot of fish I have been interested in over the years and some I didnt even know about. Now, when I win the lotto, and open my own aquarium, I guess I can keep anything I want.  :jolly1:

thanks again :)


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: livebearerfanatic on July 29, 2008, 08:30:57 AM
Livebearer, that is the second time I noticed you recommended those fish. The 75 gal tank was not suitable for them, why do you think a 60 gal would be?

Lori,

Joker gave me a terrific idea for a fish. African Featherfin Knife fish. they get about 12-13 inches and would be suitable (with reasonable amount of cover) for your tank. They would easily take care of your 1/2-1 inch culls :happy:

I should.. just be quiet now   ;)


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: metanis on July 29, 2008, 10:55:12 AM
ctenopoma acutirostre is pretty peaceful with fish that are of similar size.  she does stalk this feeder guppy that has about 30 lives:) but she can't eat her yet.  keyhole cichlids work well, i have no trouble with my gourami, but they can be iffy.  i also have swordtails in there and everyone is doing great.


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: russ on July 30, 2008, 12:29:26 PM
Hmmmm, Bullrout? here is an interesting article on these critters:

http://www.scu.edu.au/schools/ncm/staff_htm_files/bullrout.htm

I found it kind of interesting that half the article is devoted to the fish's venom and types of cures and preventative measures for the keeper to consider. :happy:

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Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: turtletoes on July 30, 2008, 12:56:44 PM
Hmm.......How'd I miss THAT!?!? lol. That would be a Bad thing to Not know about your fish. I'm assuming they are not available in the hobby unless you go out and catch your own?? I caught a stone fish in FL when I was a kid.....luckily dad was there to tell us not to touch it. I have no idea which variety it was, but we had to cut the line because it had such a death grip on the hook. It was a small one, otherwise I guess it could have bitten through the hook. Now, I've gotta go do some more readin on these kinds of fish! :)


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: Mr T Rides BMX on July 31, 2008, 02:01:19 AM
They are native where I live, So people basicaly catch them from the wild and sell them to fish shops.  Im not sure i would be eager to catch one though.  :)


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: aussiegardener on July 31, 2008, 03:36:50 AM
Which state are you in Bandit? (Southern Victoria here mate). Cheers
AussieGardener


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: Mr T Rides BMX on July 31, 2008, 05:37:42 AM
Queensland (south east)... man i wish we could get some of the catfish or fish for that matter you guys have around there  in America, especially pacman and gulpers  :lazyboy: the one cattie i have ever seen was a  red tail catfish and that was $1000 and that was about 30cm long...


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: turtletoes on July 31, 2008, 12:00:24 PM
I literally Laughed out loud when I saw your new tagline and avatar pic. ha ha.

I pity the fool...............


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: aussiegardener on August 16, 2008, 05:59:50 AM
Oscars are very personable and will beg like a puppy and in general be more interested in you than anything in thier tank.But they are unpredictable and sometimes choose to keep one or more of the feeders as pets!
Would it be ok to have an oscar in such a tank on his/her own-some? Gonna get lonely??! (By the way 48"x18"x18" by my calculations is 67.32 American gallons (56 imperial gallons)
AG


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: Kim on August 16, 2008, 09:38:05 AM
yep, we actually call that a 75gallon.  I believe it is considered the minimum required for one adult Oscar.  Eventually something a little bigger, like what we call a 120g, would be even better. It's 24" front to back.

well okay, I have to keep correcting myself....a 75g would be 48x18x20. The 67 gallon dimension that you gave isn't a standard size for us.



Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: turtletoes on August 16, 2008, 11:04:45 AM
Sorry, it is 48X18X20........what is called a 75g. I think its a given that tanks dont really hold the amount of water they are said to because they base the size of tank on the exterior dimensions. This is an older tank that has 3/8th inch thick glass and no middle support on the frame as compared to our newer 55g that has glass that isnt even 1/4 inch thick and a big molded plastic frame and brace on the top.....

I think I've decided on african butterfly fish, spotted climbing perch, and possibly a synodontis catfish if I find any that are compatable. Still working on the fish room, so havent gotten any fish for this plan yet. But, I'll be sure to keep you guys posted when I start setting up this tank. I am taking suggestions for an "African Biotope" tank......I know its not a Ton of room, but it'll work out.

thanks again
~Lori 



Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: Kim on August 16, 2008, 12:56:14 PM
I think Synodontis are schoolers by nature.

Congo tetra's!


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: samericancichlidgirl on August 16, 2008, 01:56:39 PM
Seconded! I love congo tetras, I think they're one of the coolest schoolers.  :)


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: ChuckV on August 17, 2008, 10:51:04 AM
I have had 4 full grown male congo tetras for the past 2 years.  They are beautiful fish and they are
very social fish as well.  They have teeth!!  They are considered carnivores but they do not bother any of
their tankmates which include a lot of otos, black skirt tetras, bleeding hearts and two full grown SAEs.
In fact the SAEs are probably larger than the congos. 

The congos are about 4 inches not counting the tail and the SAEs are at least 5 inches. 

The congos seem to sometimes look like they are fighting with each other but I have never seen any
damage except when one runs into a rock or other decor.  They are very hardy fish.

At one time I had 3 females in with the 4 males and that seemed to cause the males to fight over the
females.  They scattered a lot of eggs but they were quickly eaten by the bleeding hearts and the black skirts.

I finally had to move the femmales out to quiet the tank down.  The males having most all the color did
not lose any color with the absence of the females but the tank is now a lot more quiet.  That has been
a year or so ago.  Great fish!!  Eat anything love bloodworms!!

Chuck


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: turtletoes on August 19, 2008, 01:05:59 PM
Congo tetras are cool fish......but I am on an elusive search for some fish that we found at an LFS about 3 years ago. They came in as "Albino Congo Tetras" but were the wrong fish. The LFS sold them to us as that. They were so cool that we bought all 8 or however many they had......over the course of a few days, They ALL Died!! And, we havent been able to find anymore......now that I've seen and been around real Congo Tetras, I know that these other fish didnt look anything like them. I searched online, every LFS, fish room, etc that I go to, I look for these fish. They were a tight schooling fish. Silvery on the sides, with I think a red spot either on their gill plate or the edge of their eye that is closest to their dorsal fin...they schooled in a fish tank like you see in videos of sardines and other schooling fish in the wild. They were so amazing looking, they schooled so tightly and were SO shiny!! But they died so quickly that we didnt get to see their long term behavior and havent found them again........the search resumes!! :)

Thanks everyone for all your input.



Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: russ on August 20, 2008, 11:03:47 AM
OK, Congo Tetras are not squeamish! Although all fish are opportunistic feeders, most are not in the 'predatory' class.

Unless Lori has changed her mind (which is of coarse a woman's prerogative) :innocent: or we have managed to change her mind, replies should be targeted on the original topic subject.

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Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: turtletoes on August 20, 2008, 12:07:55 PM
Nope, havent changed my mind!! Not on this tank anyway!!  :proud:

Thanks Russ for putting us back on track! :)


Title: Re: 75g Predator tank--not for the squeemish
Post by: bettagirl25 on October 09, 2017, 12:56:37 PM
Hey Lori I think that is a fantastic and practical idea. I like your thinking.

I have no idea what a sunfish is.
I don't know what your 75 dimensions are.
I have an 80g and I wouldn't house any other fish on your list in the tank.
Now I may just be being conservative. But I don't consider my 80g as a tank that really has that much space in it...

Some of the 5-6" catfish would definitely be a goer IMO. The ones with spots on....ummm don't know their name lmao
Mystus spp. maybe?


Oh and there is an article in the library about turtles. They definitely need a lot more than a little environment :)

Just taking a spin through while Im debating rescuing 3 oscars off craigslist that a guy is giving away FTGH-and I do believe the name of the catfish youre talking about is mystus leucophasis -Adore the one superpap has myself but for her 55 alone for ONE is the standard I believe.One of them would cull the extras no prob lol