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Author Topic: 2.5 gallon what can I do?  (Read 12213 times)
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« on: September 12, 2010, 07:32:27 AM »

I am thinking of keeping shrimp in it but don't know where to start.
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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2010, 08:19:34 AM »

Has your 2.5 been up and running for awhile?  Shrimp do lots of grazing on bio-film that grows in the tank.  As such, they do much better in a "mature" tank that's been in operation for 6 months or more.

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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2010, 08:28:37 AM »

Also they need a nice planted tank. Plastic, silk, live or both Smiley Of course I would use the micro species of plants though.
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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2010, 09:57:41 AM »

well the tank is not set up yet. Do you know if there are small filters that do not take up half of the tank?
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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2010, 10:01:35 AM »

Honestly, I wouldn't put any animals in a 2.5 gallon tank - I'd only use it as a display for plants. Look for a UGF insert with riser tube or a tank like that holds the filter, like what you see in the eclipse series. Azoo also makes a series of small, low current filters and heaters for smaller tanks - you may want to give them a google.
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« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2010, 05:45:32 PM »

Red Sea used to make a nice little HOB, not sure if they still do.
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« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2010, 07:42:21 PM »

A planted 2.5G tank would be fine for a couple of shrimp. D. Walstad wrote a nice article on starting up these tanks. Click on the "Small Planted Tanks for Pet Shrimp" article on her book sale page.

http://www.atlasbooks.com/marktplc/00388.htm

Though it's not FW, I've been keeping a SW 3.5G coldwater tank with 3 shore shrimp locally collected for about 6 months. Macro algae is used in lieu of plants. No filteration...just an air pump for circulation. Tank sits by the window for light and gets 50% water changes weekly. That's it.

I say give the planted shrimp tank a shot...it's simple and easy.


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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2010, 10:03:53 AM »

thanks tom .

what shrimp would you recommend to put in the 2.5gal ?
i was thinking either cherry or bumblebee
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2010, 11:28:07 AM »

With those filterless setups make sure the plants are settled in and growing well before you add anything....

Id go with cherry... then again thats because they are my favourite so im a little bias  Smiley...
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2010, 12:02:54 PM »

Aren't they the same animal, just different colours?
That might be a different set of shrimp though.
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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2010, 02:04:32 PM »

Cherries and bumble bee shrimp come from the same family. They can inter-breed so it is best to keep them as a single species.
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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2010, 01:41:06 PM »

Do I need a filter in the tank with shrimp?
the badmans profile of cherry red shrimp says that they are sensitive to nitrite and need a filter but spuds said that you don't need a filter-
With those filterless setups make sure the plants are settled in and growing well before you add anything....

Id go with cherry... then again thats because they are my favourite so im a little bias  Smiley...

Oh and what about substrate because the profile says that they don't need one but what about the plants?
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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2010, 02:43:31 PM »

Oh no no.... I was just reffering to the article Tom-e posted in the previous post, you must have alot of experience with plants to pull off a filterless setup. filterless is not the way to go if its your first time keeping shrimp. Shrimp need extra clean water.  Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2010, 09:39:04 AM »

Loachy...you're right about nitrite toxicity. The concept with unfiltered plant tanks is that the plants are depended upon to remove nitrogenous wastes. For these systems to work you have to have healthy growing plants and the right bioload.

If you're uncomfortable, by all means buy a filter and cycle the tank first.

The Red Sea nano filter is the one you want to get. Costs around $10 bucks.

Substrate depends on if you want to go planted or not.

A cheap simple 2.5g would be a cycled tank with the nan filter or sponge filter. Gravel substrate, some rocks and small wood for decor...and some leaf litter for the shrimp to graze on.

Take some time and go through the threads in the planted nano tanks forum at plantedtank.net. Lots of 2.5g shrimp tanks there.



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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2010, 02:18:39 PM »

Thanks Tom
But the only problem is I live in England and i searched for that nano filter but i can only get it shipped in America so I can't get it Sad
but i will have a look through the threads :D
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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2010, 02:27:42 PM »

If you don't mind the ougleyness of it, install a sponge in the tank fed with an air pump. A good bio filter, IMHO. Utilitarian, but not pretty.
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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2010, 09:02:54 PM »

Yeah...that would be a problem.  happy

The Azoo Mignon Filter 60 is comparable in size and price to the Red Sea filter. It's available in the UK.



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« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2010, 04:56:37 PM »

How much does it matter about the shrimp tank being by a window?
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« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2010, 05:27:08 PM »

Well If your using a light then i wouldn't put it beside a window... too much light= Algae problems.

I keep one of my tanks next to my window.. Iv no light and so far iv had no probs with algae.
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« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2010, 09:13:19 PM »

The temperature could fluctuate....hot in the morning, cold at night.
But why do people hate algae so much????
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« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2010, 10:59:50 PM »

Because it can easily grow out of control and create problems. Having some algae is safe and normal.

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« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2010, 04:05:27 AM »

True that.
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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2010, 12:50:04 AM »

i have a 2.5 gallon that i use a whisper in tank filter 3i. its about 2.5 inches wide and hangs about 4 inches above the bottom. it is air powered and i hardly ever hear the thing. filter refills are cheap and only have to be done about once a month. keeps  my tank clean, clear, and smell free even with a beta and dwarf frog. if youre gonna keep small shrimp id put a fine mesh over the intake.
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« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2010, 01:32:59 AM »

Eila, as Betsy said earlier in this thread, a 2.5 gal shouldn't have any animal in it!

Honestly, I wouldn't put any animals in a 2.5 gallon tank - I'd only use it as a display for plants.

You may want to get a bigger tank for your betta and frog for their comfort.
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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2010, 01:46:35 AM »

I disagree. A 2.5 gallon would make a great planaria playground. joker

Though in all seriousness, if you are able to maintain good water quality, a stable temperatureand decent stocking levels, a 2.5 would make a good cherry red shrimp only tank.
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