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« on: February 26, 2016, 03:50:36 PM »

I almost didn't do this as I have been here a lot.  But, after dispatching a bent/emaciated old bloodfin it was a good assumption it had developed one of the pathogens that cause wasting disease.  I just did more research on this and I am almost as confused as ever. These white clouds<a href="http://s1049.photobucket.com/user/lv2crp/media/009_zpsawy2ggs5.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s392/lv2crp/009_zpsawy2ggs5.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo 009_zpsawy2ggs5.jpg"/>[/url]
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and one other are still feeding but are not vigorous fish.  My reading has me looking for visible parasites as well as understanding there may be none.  As well, I can't help but wonder if the neon tetra disease may be the problem.  I do not over feed, and the other fish are fine. These are sick, but how much so?  This has been going on for possibly 2 weeks, the fish like this. I don't want to use my QT as it has new fish, supposedly healthy, in it now.  One site says to get such a fish wasting away out long before it dies.  I can do that.  If I treat with fenbendazole and this isn't the problem am I damaging my other fish. It seems I am rehashing a problem I just brought up I know.

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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2016, 10:10:54 AM »

OK, purchased safe-guard fenbendazole for dogs.  I read posts where folks us this and how. 1 gram will treat 100 gallon.  The packet holds 1 gram and I intend to treat my 20 gallon and the 10 gallon QT.  I am going to follow the PDF. instructions from TwoTankAmin.  I have some questions. After the first treatment when do I do the second water change and vacuum cleaning? How many treatments might this take, I have come to believe 3.  I read the bottom will be covered with dead parasites.  I can only say maybe to this as I see nothing. ( I know the parasites are internal) I am treating small fish and only a few have visible problems but something has been going on way too long. Do you all do a treatment of your QT as SOP?  Man I hope this helps.

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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2016, 09:18:57 PM »

What is the 'purity factor' ? This should be indicated on the packet or box. Personally, I never assume that a medication is 100% pure. There may also be carrier substances involved. This would also be indicated on the label. If there is additional substances, then the dosage would need to be compensated by adding more of the drug. To determine how much of an increase, a purity fator term is added into the formula for calculating dosage.

Dosages are fairly easy to calculate in ppm. If you need either an English or metric conversion, let us know. I'm hoping that those little 1 gram packets are ok. I only mentioned this because of the fact that the medication is available in a specified formulation for some other use. I would also add that I did not get a chance to read the pdf yet. I know twotankadmin is very accurate in what is posted, so I'm hoping my reply was already taken into consideration  happy
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2016, 10:09:23 AM »

Hello russ,

I went conservative from what I read on the dosing, which thankfully I only did on my new QT, because I used the WRONG drug.  (I have read the rules about posting, but this is important.) Earlier I had read of using FEN-bendazole for ich, and later for worms. I confused TwoTankAmin's instructions with this drug, it actually was FLU-bendazole in the PDF instructions. I used fenbendazole.  It was after patting myself on the back and looking at threads later and I realized my mistake. It left the tank a milky white and the granules would not completely dissolve in hot water. It is ideally used with food, though not always, and not as a bath.  Well, today the fish in the QT are fine and the water clear. I can only hope I did some good. Do a water change and also do more research into what I did and it's consequences.

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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2016, 08:46:46 AM »

Very, it would not have mattered I think. Those were feeder wc in the QT and infected bloodfins from another sick tank at the LFS. All died.

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