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« on: July 21, 2016, 12:01:14 AM »

I've had a dwarf pufferfish for 6 months, healthily, in a five gallon aquarium with an under gravel and hang on back filter.
 is this poisioning, and if so, what more can I do about it?

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 I live in jakarta, and the tap water is non-potable, and the shipment of clean water is late this week (no water change possible)
 He eats only snails I breed myself.
 he eats 3 per day
 3/4 inch long fish
 kept in freshwater
 I've already added as much activated carbon as I can fit into the filter
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2016, 09:27:33 AM »

What symptoms are you seeing?  You say that your puffer is healthy but the title of this thread is "dwarf puffer sickness? so I'm not exactly sure of what the problem is.  What are your readings for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate?  When you are able to do water changes, how often are they and how much do you change each time?  What is the tank like (do you have substrate, plants, etc)?
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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2016, 03:48:43 PM »

What makes you think the fish is being poisoned?

It sounds like a good set up from the information you provided, but knowing the answers to Pat mary's questions would help to confirm that.

What makes your water non-potable?  Just because its not fit for your consumption doesn't guarantee the fish can't use it.
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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2016, 05:06:46 AM »

my puffer was healthy up until it started refusing to eat or move.  I suspect poisoning because the day before it began acting like this, I changed the water with tap water , instead of drinking water.  ammonia and nitrite are below 1ppm, and nitrate is below 5 ppm. 

the tap water's danger to me varies from bacterial to heavy metal, depending on who I ask. 
he appears to be getting better now, so I think that the carbon is working
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2016, 07:22:27 AM »

Chances are that your tap water is fine for your fish.  The heavy metals are going to cause problems over time.... You will live 70-100 years, that is a lot of time for heavy metals to build up.  you fish won't live that long and probably won't feel any effects of metals within its lifetime.  Of course I am saying that without knowing what heavy metals or what the levels of those metals are, so keep that in mind.

Bacteria problems can go either way, depends on which bacteria.

Glad to hear there was some improvement.  How are things now?
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2016, 09:18:11 AM »

In your "bloated cardinal" thread, you gave tank info that I will assume is approximately the same for this tank with the puffer in it.  You said that you do a water change about once a month and change 40% of the water.  You also said that your ammonia and nitrite are below 1 ppm and nitrates are below 5ppm in this thread.  If you do water changes only once a month, I would highly doubt that your readings are that low except for right after the water change.  I would think that the readings would be much higher right before the water change.  That possibly could be the reason that you thought your puffer was "poisoned".  Test your water again after a week and then again after another week.  When you see that nitrates are beginning to reach 20ppm, do a water change and vacuum.

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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2016, 08:35:11 PM »

I change the water 25% daily in the pufferfish tank, because in my experience, puffers are more sensitive to water quality than other fish, and 1.25 gallons a day is not a huge amount of water (37 gallons/mo), while 100 gallons a month (50%/ 2 weeks) is.  I did more water changes with drinking water, and his condition has improved.
I will not be adding tap water to his tank again
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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2016, 11:30:09 AM »

I change the water 25% daily in the pufferfish tank, ... and 1.25 gallons a day is not a huge amount of water (37 gallons/mo), while 100 gallons a month (50%/ 2 weeks) is.  

I am glad you have solved your concerns, but I have to really questions this math.  50% would be 2.5 gallons and doing that once a week would be 10 gallons a month, not 100.  Its much less water getting changed than 25% per day.
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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2016, 01:17:47 AM »

the 100 gallons a month is referring to the larger aquarium I have, which only gets 40% change a month, heavy planting, and a lighter stock
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