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Rachel Foreman
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Thursday,
August 02, 2001 - 09:11 pm
A friend of mine told me that angels are better kept in pairs. I
haven't read anywhere that this is true, but I have been thinking
of getting another angel for my tank. I'd like to have another
but I don't want to end up with a breeding pair, or a pair that
constantly fights. I'm open to any info or suggestions that
might help me out. Thanks.
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Kick
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Thursday,
August 02, 2001 - 10:37 pm
Usually if you have a female/male pair there will be no fighting.
And you really don't need to worry about fry if you don't
want them as the others in the tank will eat the eggs. Just make
sure that U have enough room in the tank for another angel as they
can sometimes grow very large and need plenty of room to move and
swim.
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Rachel Foreman
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Friday,
August 03, 2001 - 12:23 pm
Thanks. I have another question for you then. I'm not sure if
I have a male or female. I'm pretty sure that it is a male.
I know male angels are known to have large foreheads, some even
aquire a bump on their forehead as they grow older. The trouble
with that is that my angel is only a little over a year old, quite
big for its age, but still hard to tell. How would I know or find
out? It would be good to know, that way I know to get a male or
a female.
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joycedonley
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Friday,
August 03, 2001 - 07:46 pm
Rachel I have had angels for five years and cannot tell the males
from females. It is very difficult unless you have a successful
breeding. My female lay eggs even though they aren't fertilized,which
is why I know one tank has two females. Like Kick said they almost
always eat their eggs so it's really not necessary to worry
about unwanted fry!
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joycedonley
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Friday,
August 03, 2001 - 07:48 pm
Last note my two gals don't fight each other much...just sometimes
chase a bit, but they are in a 40H tank and have lots of room. My
other pair(males? females?) is in a 29gal and have lots
of plants to avoid each other if they are moody.
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Rachel Foreman
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Friday,
August 03, 2001 - 09:35 pm
Thanks Joyce. Well, I forgot that the females will lay eggs. No
eggs yet and I have had my angel since it was 6 months old, its
a little over a year old now. I guess I can be comfortable with
HIS name now. I called him "little guy" the first day I
got him.
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Kick
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Friday,
August 03, 2001 - 10:49 pm
It is very easy to tell the difference between males and females
once they are old enough...usually about 6 months. The males have
a hump on the top "of their head" starting a little behind
their mouth. The females are "straight-lined" from the tip
of their little "noses" back to the doral fin. If you can't
decide whether or not there is a "hump" and the angel is
old enough, you have a female. It is really quite noticable in the
the males.
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joycedonley
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Saturday,
August 04, 2001 - 08:03 am
Thanks Kick for that info. Maybe my one black marble is a male since
he does have the hump. It's funny though that the silver with
him without a hump hasn't laid any eggs? In my 40H the pair(no
humps) keeps laying them over and over. It's all the same
ro water. All the angels are the same age except the old black marble.
By the way Rachael mine seem to start laying a day or two after
my water changes.
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Rachel Foreman
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Saturday,
August 04, 2001 - 09:27 am
Okay, I've taken a good look at my fish. And now I am more inclined
to think that it is a female. After all, no hump. However, no eggs
either. When would she start laying them? She's already a little
over a year old. Or could my 2 gouramis be eating the eggs before
I get a chance to see them?
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joycedonley
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Saturday,
August 04, 2001 - 10:52 am
Yes other fish will eat the eggs, so that's one possiblity.
I don't think they always lay eggs unless the conditions are
right. Mine were about two years old when they started and every
month or so lay a new batch. I have a pleco in the tank now and
I am sure he eats any eggs before I see them. I used to notice them
in the AM when I turned on the tank light! I decided to try breeding
in the far future with mbuna since the fry are a little larger and
hatching brine shrimp to feed babies is not my favorite thing.Also
rescuing angel eggs from be cannibalized sounds like a tricky procedure.
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Kick
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Saturday,
August 04, 2001 - 11:44 pm
If you want the fry to make it, a really good idea is to put a piece
of slate slanted in the tank. They will usually lay their eggs on
this if it is present. If you want to try to raise the fry, you
need to remove the the piece of slate that has the eggs attached
to it by scooping it out within a jar or bowl and moving it to another
tank. Until the fry hatch, you need quite a bit of aeration in the
tank and some Maracide added keeps fungus from setting in. Removing
them gives them a better of chance of being able to hatch before
the others snack on them.
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Rachel
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Saturday,
August 04, 2001 - 11:52 pm
Hello everyone, I actually don't have a question, just a quirky
little story to say about my angel. I was at the local pet store
picking up a few things( food, conditioners ect)and decided
that my angel and his tankmates(2 kissing gouramies) might
enjoy a little treat. So I bought some freeze dried baby shrimp.
I take them home and throw some in the tank. My gouramies eat them
in a second. My angel however, takes one in her mouth, and then
spits it out. She does it a few more times, and then finally eats
one. She did this over and over for a few minutes, and left a bunch
there. I never realized that fish can be such picky eaters. P.S.-I'm
now just going to post as Rachel, It's much easier.
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joycedonley
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Sunday,
August 05, 2001 - 09:21 am
Rachel angels are really funny sometimes. One minute mine are chasing
each other, the next buddies and swimming side by side. Mine always
try to grab algae wafers for the pleco, but they just can't
hang on to it!
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